Every source I've watched it on has had macroblocking. I've watched live broadcasts of hbo cable, hbo cable on demand, hbo go, and captured streams as mkvs from a few sources.
The compression combined with the blizzard of snow which was like a storm of blowing grey and black ashes throughout many scenes exaggerated the weaknesses in the compression.
I've watched many other very dark movies on my TV and screens. There is nothing wrong with my main screens regarding watching dark material. It's like a lighter version of when you watch a p or p xvid screener or low quality cam stream and stretch it to full screen on a large p or 4k display. You see all the blocking in solid backgrounds. It's watchable with things set dark enough but it's still not as good as I'm hoping the bluray release will be someday. I felt it gave a realistic feeling to the chaos of a massive and terrifying battle, and a sense of weight to the characte'rs movements.
Last edited: May 2, Find the biggest TV you can. Don't click if you don't want to see scenes from the show. I wouldn't want it as bright as the one they are showing but it shows just how much detail you are losing. It definitely could have been knocked up a few notches. That still wouldn't have adressed the macroblocking compression issue entirely, compounded by the blizzard of grey and black snowlflakes like ashes.
Last edited: May 3, A really good TV is capable of distinguishing subtle shades of gray in the darker scenes. Performance in dark scenes is a benchmark for a good display performance. This scene is probably the best benchmark ever for black levels on a television.
There is no such thing as a scene being too dark. There is such a thing as a TV not being able to display certain levels of darkness. There are limitations inherent in LED technology in this regard.
In my second viewing which I described above I could see the charge come out of the darkness well before the first viewing without compromising the overall aesthetic. When you brighten, you brighten everything including portions that are meant to be almost black.
Plasma displays are no longer made. The downside is it is there are no gaming focused OLED display is in so most people in this forum are not going to want one. The best thing would be a gaming focused OLED display but for some reason that is not being done and so I will stick with my plasma until that happens.
Blackstone said:. Joined Dec 16, Messages 5, I had no issues with the episode at all. I like that it is dark and I agree that the brightened version I linked is ridiculously bright. I posted it to show the detail lost as a comparison and to show just how blinder black some of the scenes were.
Some scenes in the episode could have been a single notch or two brighter while still being very dark. I was able to get access to an amazon feed of it at p last night. The blacks are much more solid in the beginning scenes of the show and the overall quality was improved.
There was still macroblocking in the backgrounds though once the big battle and the blizzard storm hit. I suspect the compression combined with the blowing ash look of the black night blizzard snowflakes is just too much for the compression.
It's very much like a lower quality xvid or cam made full screen as far as the background uniformity went. The solid backgrounds go blocky. At the very darkest settings it's less obnoxious but it's still there in many scenes. This version is the best I've seen yet though. I wish this is the one I got to see the first time I saw it. I've seen it on the original airing on hbo go, a re-run on scheduled HBO, some of it on HBO on demand, and a few captures.
I can watch go, a live capture, and the amazon version all at the same time if I want to. I think it has a lot more to do with compression than it does TV quality. Sure, better TV will be better, but for most people - they have been watching stuff on their TV for a while, and for the most part have been pretty happy. And not everyone complained about it being too dark. But for some people, it may as well been a pitch black screen.
So for one episode to come along and it be "bad", yeah, sorry, the common denominator here isn't that everyone else's TVs are bad and they just never noticed it because they only watch sitcoms and reality TV. If you had a good stream, it was watchable pretty much no matter what TV you had.
If you didn't, then even a very nice TV can't make up for bad compression. A lot of fast moving low contrast isn't going to show up well on a poor stream. Joined Mar 9, Messages 4, I do not have the best TV by a long shot. It's a middle of the road LG panel with computed "local dimming" using edge lit diffuser panels.
I believe it has six of them. Looking at the brightened version of some of the scenes, It managed to capture most of the stuff going on reasonably well. However, I actually set up my TV to display movies, and particularly darker movies well.
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